Thursday, November 19, 2015

Collegiate INdoor Class Records

Sorry for saying (in the previous post) I would do BOTH HS and Collegiate Class Records in the same post.
As I got towards the end of the HS section, I realized that post was already too long, so decided to do the Collegiates in a separate post.
And here it is!

The format is the same.
I'll list each Class separately--Men first--then offer my predictions of which Records might fall, and maybe a name or two who are most likely to do it.

I'll close with some brief (??) comments on some non-Records & Marks issues!

Frosh Class
6.54, 20.40, 44.93, 1:16.92, 1:46.13, 2:19.53, (No 1500 mark!), 3:55.02, 7:52.64, 13:41.89, 7.57, 7-6, 26-7.75, 55-8.25, 18-8.75, 65-10.50, 74-10.50, 5674 (Heptathlon)

While it's not quite as problematical to predict first year Collegiate records (as it is for Frosh HS'ers), it's still difficult, as the transition from HS to College is many times fraught with issues young athletes aren't able to deal with while still a teenager.
Not to mention possible injuries, and the change from HS weight implements to the International weights!
(The latter, INdoors, is just for the SP and WT, as well as the height of the hurdles in the 60H.)

But I could see the 600, 1 Mile , 3000, 5000, and PV records going.
Also, if they time Grant Fisher enroute, we could get a 1500 record!
I see Fisher (& maybe Matthew Maton) as good for the Mile mark!

Soph Class
6.51, 20.10, 44.57, 1:17.35, 1:44.84, (No 1000 mark!), 3:41.19, 3:55.33, 7:41.45, 13:08.28, 7.45, 7-7, 27-6.75, 56-7.50, 19-1.50, 71-3.50, 77-6, 6070

With some great sprinters coming off the HS ranks recently, I could see the 60 mark going down.
I'd add the 600, (a 1000 record!), 1500, 1 Mile, and maybe the PV.

There's some tough marks in this Class, including the overall Collegiate Records in the 200, 400, 800, 5000, and the 60H.

Junior Class
6.51, 20.26, 45.03, 1:16.98, 1:45.88, (No 1000 record!), 3:38.60, 3:54.74, 7:42.79, 13:26.01, 7.50, 7-7.75, 27-4, 56-11.50, 19-4.75, 70-6.25, 80-0.25, (No Hept mark!)

If Trayvon Bromell hadn't turned Pro, I'd give him the 60 and 200 records---IF he competed in them INdoors!
(There are no Collegiate PRO records, as there are for High Schoolers!)
Watch for Michael Cherry in the 400, and of course, Ed Cheserek in everything from the 1500 to the 5000.

If Cheserek goes for time INdoors (I'd give THAT just 50-50 odds!), then those distance records could ALL go down!

Otherwise, I see the 60, 400, 600, and the WT as at least somewhat vulnerable.
BTW, all of the events, both HS and College, where I'm MISSING Class Records, probably HAVE Records!  In the next few months, I'll attempt to fill in all the gaps in my Record Book!!

Senior Class
6.45, 20.26, 45.29, 1:15.79, 1:45.33, 2:18.55, 3:37.25, 3:52.88, 7:38.59, 13:13.74, 7.47, 7-9.25, 28-2.25, 57-5, 19-2.25, 70-7.25, 83-11.25, 6499

With Andre De Grasse (for the present!!) NOT going Pro, the 60 and 200 are up for him to grab.
Besides those, the 400 is VERY weak, and to varying degrees, so are the 1000, 5000, TJ, PV, and SP.

Of course, with the Senior Class, breaking a CLASS Record is likely to also take down the overall Collegiate Record!!

Now we turn to the Women.

Frosh Class
7.12, 22.40, 50.88, 1:29.53, 2:04.27, 2:44.77, 4:22.78, 4:32.79, 8:58.88, 15:20.57, 7.99, 6-4.25, 21-3.50, 45-10.50, 14-5.25, 61-1.25, 68-11.75, 4635

The 200 Frosh mark is the only event where a Freshman holds the overall Collegiate Record!!
Yet, with the sprints in general on the upswing of late, I could see that as one of the records open for breaking!
Add the 60, 600, 800, 1000, 1500, 1 Mile, 3000, 5000, LJ, PV, and WT as good for a challenge.
One (or both!) of the Weeks twins could get the PV record!

That 1500 mark is so bad, I'm of the opinion it's NOT the actual record!
I'll search around, and see what I can find!
But if it IS the record, it WILL fall--IF someone runs that distance, or is timed enroute to a Mile!

Soph Class
7.13, 22.49, 50.82, 1:28.78, 2:02.76, 2:44.77, (No 1500 mark!), 4:32.72, 9:02.05, 15:27.42, 7.90, 6-5.25, 21-11, 46-4, 15-1, 59-7, 75-7.50, 4678

The 60, 200, 600, 800, 1000, 1 Mile, 3000, 5000, 60H, LJ, TJ, PV, SP, and WT records could go down!
I know that's a whole bunch of records, but this Class has a bunch of almost World Class athletes!

You have Dior Hall to challenge the 60H, Keturah Orji in the Horizontal Jumps, Desiree Freier (And??) in the PV, and Raven Saunders in the SP!

Junior Class
7.09, 22.49, 50.80, (No 600 record!), 2:01.65, 2:45.40, 4:12.18, 4:30.03, 8:58.14, 15:28.11, 7.78, 6-6, 22-8, 46-2.50, 14-10.75, 62-10, 83-10.25, 4586

Look at the 60, 200, 800, 1000, 1500, 1 Mile, 3000, 5000, PV, and Heptathlon as good possibilities to go down!

Kendell Williams would be looking for her 3rd straight Collegiate Class Record in the Multi.
She also holds the 9th and 12th Grade HS Records in the Pentathlon!

It's embarrassing that the Collegiate 1000 records for Women are mostly slower than the HSR!!
Hopefully, that will change in 2016!

Only the Frosh and Junior Class PV records are still under 15 feet!
That too could end in 2016!

Senior Class
7.08, 22.43, 50.46, 1:27.78, 2:00.75, 2:41.00, 4:09.77, 4:25.91, 8:42.03, 15:12.22, 7.84, 6-5, 22-8, 46-9, 15-7, 63-0.75, 83-1.75, 4566

Again, several of these Senior Class marks are also the overall CR.
Nonetheless, I could see the 60, 200, 600, 800, 1000, 1500, 1 Mile, 5000, 60H, and the heptathlon as possible targets.

That 3000 Record is one of the very best Collegiate Records--Men or Women--but I could see it falling in the right race!

Well, that does it for Class Records.

About the banning of Russia from Rio, I have mixed feelings.
Don't get me wrong--I'm as much anti-drugs as most people.
But the entire Russian nation would be punished for the sins of a few!
(Okay, so it's more than "a few"!!)
But come on, I won't believe that EVERYone in Russia is dirty!

A recent article (or was it a Tweet?) said that Yelena Isinbayeva, Anna Chicherova, and Sergey Shubenkov would be among those unable to compete!
They haven't tested positive in their entire careers!

One suggestion is for them (and other ban-ees) to compete independently under the Olympic banner!
I would be okay with that.
(But we'd all KNOW they're Russian!!)

Then there's the ongoing possibility of an appeal and/or a deal.

Another negative aspect of a ban would be the possibility of some of Russia's allies joining in a boycott.
Do we really want to relive 1980 and 1984--not to mention 1976?

Alysia Montano has been Tweeting (and Facebooking) about the probability she'll be upgraded to Medal status in 4 different Championships and/or Olympics.
But she's not the only one who could/will benefit from drug bans.

Marta Dominguez has been given a 3 year ban, and all of her marks from 2009 to 2012 will be erased.
This moves Jenny Simpson from 5th to 4th in the 2009 World Championship Steeplechase!

I'll probably have more on this in the future, as several National, Age, Meet, Place, etc records might be changed!

No word yet on who's going to be in the JDL All-Comers meet, coming up the same day as the NCAA XC Championships--November 21st!
But I will be reporting on that meet--assuming there's noteworthy marks!--in my XC post--probably either late Saturday or early Sunday!

Also coming up will be my Age Records post--or posts!
(There were 2 of them last year!)

The final (?) INdoor Preview post will be another predictions post--as to which World, US, Collegiate, or HSR's will fall this season---and their odds!
That may not come until early December---or at least sometime AFTER Thanksgiving!

I found out that Elise Cranny has been injured, and that's why she hasn't raced XC this year.
Have no idea if she'll be returning in time for INdoors!

Haven't heard anything from Alexa Efraimson lately.
But maybe it's that proverbial "quiet before the storm".

I'm SURE it was a joke, but Spikes tweeted that Valerie Adams would race the 60H in Portland in the WC!
Val even went along with the "joke"---sort of!
THAT would be a sight to behold!!

Speaking of the 60H, Lolo Jones is quickly mending from her surgery.
But will she try to run INdoors?
IMO, it looks doubtful, but who knows!

Molly Huddle was asked if she's ruled out running the Olympic Trials Marathon!
She didn't rule it out 100%, but it sounded like a "NO!" to me!
Yet, if she does run it, I'd put her on the team---now!!
(And that would mean a team of Flanagan, Linden, and Huddle!)

There's an even more preposterous "rumor" that Galen Rupp might do the same!
If HE did, put HIM on the team!

And if BOTH do it, do NOT erase them off your 10000 predictions!
They could do both!

Well, see you in 2 or 3 days!

ADDED 15 minutes after first posting!
Bad and sad news about Kayla Montgomery.
She wrote on Facebook (with a photo of herself) that she's had her first relapse of her Multiple Sclerosis, since first being diagnosed with MS when she was 14 years old.
She wrote that she's working with doctors to reverse the symptoms of the relapse.
She did not say whether this means the end of her Collegiate running career at Lipscomb!
To me, that says that she WILL compete again!
Whatever happens, her athletic career has been a near miracle, as MS is--or can be--a seriously debilitating disease, one that puts strong people in wheelchairs and constant use of walkers!
That she's been able to run, and run FAST (17:16 for 5000 as a Senior in HS, and 35:49 for the 10000 in her Frosh year at Lipscomb) tells you how strong and determined this young lady is.
Please take 12+ minutes of your day and watch the ESPN video called "Catching Kayla".
It's now almost 2 years old, but it will remind you what a special woman Kayla Montgomery is.
Let's all wish her a swift recovery, and a return to the running wars!

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